When kids notice race, what’s a parent to do?

written by Anti-Racist Parent editor Tami Winfrey Harris

I know, that’s an odd headline to see around here. Most ARPers would agree that there is nothing wrong with “seeing color” contrary to the still-too-prevalent chorus of “I don’t see color” folks. I’ve said before, noticing race is not the problem in our society, the problem is the judgments and biases that occur when people encounter people of other races.

Still, many a parent’s approach to anti-racism involves encouraging children to ignore benign racial differences. “Shhhhhh…that lady over there is black, but let’s pretend we don’t notice.” This not-uncommon approach leaves children with the impression that there is something wrong with being a race other than white.

A recent post on MomLogic, “Mom, Why Is Her Face Brown?” has caused a bit of a stir among some in the anti-racist cyber community:

When my husband brought my two boys to visit me at work this week, my older boy shocked a room full of Moms when he asked me loud and clearly “Mommy, why is her face brown?” upon meeting one of my co-workers.

I was completely mortified. What was I doing wrong that he would he say something like that? Aren’t we all supposed to be colorblind and not notice the differences in people? Read more…

The post’s writer eventually asks her brown coworker to explain racial differences to the child. A move that caused some uproar in the comments on MomLogic and prompted Macon D at Stuff White People Do to remark that the post belonged in the Chronicles of White Oblivion.

Children are inscrutable little things. Who knows why they say some of the things they do. God help us if we are all judged as parents based on everything our kids say. But I think the child’s reaction to encountering someone with black skin possibly indicates immersion in a not very diverse world. (And I understand that I am making this judgment based on a very short post on a parenting blog.)

It is odd. Racial understanding and comfort are among the very few social issues that parents leave to chance, assuming that children will—despite living in a still racist world—pick up tolerance and racial sensitivity and understand white privilege by some sort of strange osmosis or magic. We don’t assume that children will automatically know not to take drugs or have unprotected sex or touch hot stoves. We are proactive about those parts of parenting. Racial understanding, too many of us, leave to…I’m not sure exactly…chance, I guess.

A parent who wants to raise a child that is comfortable within the rich diversity of our society, proactively discusses race in an age appropriate way. Anti-racist parenting also means exposing children to varying races and cultures through community activities, media (books, film, TV, etc.), food, friendships and other relationships. A child that is exposed to diverse cultures is less likely to respond to someone with a different color skin as if she were exotic game.

 I am also troubled by the OP’s decision to have her colleague field her child’s questions about race.

I asked my co-worker to field the question because I was interested in hearing how she’d like it answered.

This action makes it seem as if race is the bailiwick of people of color—that we must own discussions of racism and race bias, that these things are really our problems. It absolves whiteness of responsibility for correcting an oppression that it originated. Simply in terms of office relations, I think asking a coworker to field social questions for a child is presumptuous and unfair. “Can you explain to Billy why you’re black, please? Thanks!”

This is particularly unfair in an office setting where people of color so often have to bite their tongues when it comes to racial slights. The OP’s coworker may not have felt free to express her real thoughts on race or the situation at hand, especially depending on the power dynamic in the office. The OP made her child’s nurturing regarding race the burden of a person of color who was likely already shouldering her own burderns. It is a function of how far we go to avoid real discussion of race that this parent was hesitant to handle her child’s outburst on her own.

Look, as parents, we all do the best we can. Sometimes our best isn’t good enough. I’m not trying to pile on the MomLogic OP. She has taken a lot of heat already. But the fact remains that she posted an article to a parenting blog positioning this occurrence as a triumph, a learned lesson. Viewing the situation through an anti-racist parenting lens, I fear she missed the lesson of the moment entirely.

I asked ARP’s columnists to weigh in on this issue.

Renee says:

This story really drew my attention as the mother of a bi-racial child.  The colorblindness of children is something we often forget because we have come to associate difference with value.   From the moment children become aware of race it is  we as adults that indoctrinate them into believing that these constructed values say something real and or meaningful.  When my child first discovered that his father was white, his concern was that somehow it was wrong to love him like we do.  It was only after being reassured that we are a family and that the love that we share is natural were his fears put to rest. 

The key as a parent is to reflect the values that we wish our children to grow with as well as stay in a constant state of readiness to deal with racism as it is taught to them by the agents of socialization.  Whether it is the education system or the media, what is certain is that innocence is an unfortunate passing phase in the life of a child.  The only way to ensure that they retain the positive racial understandings of their early youth is to counter act racial ideology each time your child is exposed to it. It is only when ideas are allowed to go unchallenged that they flourish in our society.

Meera says:

I think that those who criticize Jackie are doing so because they assume that she is more culturally sensitive (meaning sensitive towards the culture of others) than she actually is. Her comment about “aren’t we all supposed to be color blind?” speaks to her racial cluelessness as far as I’m concerned. Why should we pretend we don’t see racial differences, as if they are things that should be overlooked on a person, like a glass eye or something?

So, because she clearly needed her coworker to speak for her on subject matter she was obviously uncomfortable with, Jackie missed a key teaching moment with her son. While that was kind of a shame, I think what’s important here was that the co-worker handled it in a sensible way. Her response ended up teaching both mother and son something at the same time. Hopefully, if something similar to this incident happens again, Jackie will know how to deal, because it really isn’t that big of a deal at all.

Bianca says:

I wonder if this mother still employs the “colorblind” ideology. It seemed that only after she could make a connection with differences within white communities (the analogy of her eye color) could she then understand how difference is not wrong or bad. Has she unlearned the colorblind ideology?  Her move seems cowardice: having the woman of color speak to her son and teach him how people come in “all colors,” which for a child of his age, does that literally and/or figuratively translate? 

I’d really like to know the power dynamics between her and her “co-worker.” What rubs me the wrong way about this is that it seems as if she gave the woman of color permission to speak, to answer the question, to do her job as a parent. Is this some sort of privilege—to clean up her mess and the mess of her children? That’s a little too much on the domestic worker tip for my taste. She’s also playing the game of “if a person of color says it’s ok/not offensive/offensive/harmful/painful/happy/etc., then it’s ok. This way of thinking translates to, “I’m off the hook. I don’t need to think about this more and seek more information on the topic.” Why are we seen as experts at the most unusual of times?

She then throws in the “nature” term which was to combat the “nurture” or lack of nurturing she did for her son and has the audacity to ask “what am I doing wrong that he would say something like that?” This now makes me wonder: what does she consider “unnatural” today? What does she mean about “race relations”? I don’t even know how to define that term based on this interaction because it seems the only relations she used was making the woman of color work beyond what is in her job description. Isn’t that a misuse of power, especially power over versus power with her coworker?

Brian says:

While I agree with the summation, I am concerned about what I perceive as this person’s fear, reticence, unwillingness or inability to answer the question for the child. What if the child had asked the question while in the car driving down the road and the brown-skinned person was on the sidewalk–what would she have said then? To pass the buck to the coworker is much like a professor who asks a student for the “black perspective” (for example) on a particular issue in a class discussion.

We must actively take responsibility to make these types of interventions when our children ask them. We are our children’s first and most impacting teachers. Let’s not leave these important questions up to chance.

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Comments

  1. Katherine wrote:

    As a parent of a 25 month old who is already commenting about everything she notices, (including every freckle and wrinkle I have on my body… sigh…), I need help with how conversations about race would “sound.” Do you have any resources you’d recommend that I could read where I might be able to get a feeling for what a conversations might sound like so that I can take advantages of these “teachable moments” in a responsible, informative way?

  2. Thorn wrote:

    The strangest aspect as far as I can tell is that this is a story being told by a mom who has adopted transracially from Taiwan. This is a little boy whose little sister is not the same “color” as he is, though she’s not “brown” either. It’s strange and sad to me that conversations about race and difference aren’t already going on in their household.

  3. HJ wrote:

    Yes, I’m curious, too. Is it wrong to say that people’s skin comes in different colors, like I would say to a question about different hair and eye color? I wouldn’t be at all shocked by such a question, and I’m not aiming to be color blind, but how should one answer that question?

  4. Anne wrote:

    How about, “Yes, Mary does have brown skin. I think it’s beautiful. People with brown skin have more melanin than people with white skin.
    Many people with brown skin have ancestors that came from Africa, were the hot sun would burn their skin if they didn’t have the melanin to protect them.”

    Kids aren’t looking for a treatise on race relations. Kids are looking for facts.

    Save the complex answers for complex questions.

  5. Tami Winfrey Harris wrote:

    I agree with Anne: “Some people have brown skin, some people have white skin…people come in lots of different colors…isn’t that neat.”

  6. Julia wrote:

    Katherine and HJ:
    The book “I’m Chocolate, You’re Vanilla” is very helpful in interpreting what children mean (not always what we think they mean) when they talk about skin color and identity, and gives lots of useful advice on how to respond in a developmentally appropriate way. I found it tremendously insightful.

  7. Kristen wrote:

    I had such a frustrating experience with a parent like this that I wrote a blogpost about it:

    http://thehowertons.blogspot.com/2008/07/mommy-look-at-brown-boy.html

    I’m sure many parents here can relate.

    I think it is really important to have open discussions with our kids about race. When they are preschool and elementary ages, they will notice things in terms of color, so that is how we should talk about it, too. Honestly, I think we all need to stop worrying about how it will “sound” to others. Our kids will pick up on it if we are uncomfortable or awkward because we are trying to be PC. Ignoring or avoiding a child’s comments on skin color can send a strong message: racial difference is SO bad and SO embarrasing that we can’t even talk about it. It’s better to be casual and open, and encouraging of what they are observing, even if it makes us cringe around other adults. Remember, calling someone brown or black is not an insult!! If we act like they’ve made a guffaw by doing so, they will assume that it is.

    I agree on the book “I’m Chocolate, You’re Vanilla”. Immensely helpful to me!

  8. Andrea wrote:

    I think some of my reaction to this would depend on the relationship between this woman and her co-worker and the tone in which she asked the co-worker to respond. If she was the woman’s manager, you’re looking at a power inequity. If they’re friends and it was more of a, “Hey, Mary, what do you think?” type conversation, I don’t have a major problem with it, though she probably should have just said, “People just have different colored skin” and be done with it. I don’t know that I’d toss in a “Isn’t Mary’s skin color beautiful?” when I explained either. It sounds patronizing. It’s the same reaction I have when every person of color is described as “strong” or “proud” or whatever in the press releases that get sent out begging me to review so and so’s book. It could well be that Mary is noticeably NOT beautiful and the kid obviously isn’t blind and might comment on that next, further embarrassing Mom. I doubt Mary would have enjoyed being made the center of attention in that way either. Differences in skin color just are and it’s best to acknowledge it matter-of-factly without the adjectives and get on with the day.

    I also don’t find it that odd that the kid isn’t familiar with black or Hispanic people, depending on where they live. I didn’t meet anyone who was black in person until I was about 10 or so and there are still a number of towns in this state where kids are likely to have similar experiences. Not every parent can afford to pick up and move to a place that is more diverse, even if they have adopted a child of another race. That may or may not be the situation this woman is in. If she did make this co-worker uncomfortable, hopefully she’ll do something else next time her kid notices someone’s looks.

  9. Susan wrote:

    This shouldn’t be a difficult question to answer. God made us all different” and use the analogy of different flowers in a garden.

    But I’d followup with comments like… some folks from different areas of the world have different characteristics.

    some folks have slanty eyes, some folks have freckles, some folks have an accent. Different? Yes. Bad/Good? No. Just different.

    But I have to be honest. Where does this child live that he/she has never seen a brown-skinned person?

  10. P2H wrote:

    As a parent of a mixed-race child I find that it’s important to help her have language she can use to describe people without feeling awkward. I model that by trying to use the language I hope she can use later in life. If we don’t teach them the language, they’ll learn it very quickly from someone else. And probably from someone less sensitive.

  11. Katherine wrote:

    Thank you for the language, Tami and Anne, and the book suggestion, Julia. I really appreciate your responses.

  12. Jenn wrote:

    My husband grew up on a farm in North Dakota, and remembers first seeing a Black person when he was ten years old. There simply IS no diversity in some parts of the country. Up there, a Swedish family in a German community is considered out of their element.

    We have three children, two adopted transracially
    (they are Ethiopian), and one biological son. They are 6, nearly 4, and just turned 3, and all in that “noticing differences” stage. My experience is that it’s not the child’s question that unnerves people – it’s the parent’s reaction. A simple, “People come in all kinds of colors,” is sufficient in most cases, unless the child pushes for more details. Parents forget that color has no value judgement attached to it when you’re three.

    Now, what do I say when my talkative middle child (almost four), announces, “Wow, Mama! That lady has a REALLY HUGE BUTT!!”

  13. Deb wrote:

    Ok, I just have to point out, that at a certain age kids ask about EVERYTHING, no matter how familiar. So the fact that the child pointed out a coworker’s skin color does not necessarily mean that he doesn’t see people with that color skin on a regular basis. The mother’s lack of a ready response would suggest that she hadn’t dealt with the question before, true, but that just means he probably never asked her before, and she hadn’t thought about it ahead of time.

    My kids had been bathing together for 2 years before my son thought to ask why his sister didn’t have a penis.

    Hmmmm. . . wonder if I’ll get flamed for letting my children bathe together?

    And, let me state for the record, that yes, the mother handled the situation poorly and has a lot to learn, but I think it’s unfair to ascribe malicious motives to her. I’d say wanting to be colorblind is the early stages of unlearning racism. We’re all at different points in that process, and I feel uncomfortable criticizing someone who is where I was myself a few years ago. As a transracial adoptive parent, should she be further along? Arguably. I just hope that the furor around her post spurs her to do just that, instead of deciding to through up her hands and decide she’ll never be able to get it “right” anyway, so why bother?

  14. Ann wrote:

    Not knowing this original poster I will comment not to “defend her” but to help people from making snap judgements.

    Our family lives in a fairly diverse neighborhood, community and school, I purposely look for books that are diverse and my mother-in-law is Hispanic and my daughter is Chinese. I also use every resource and idea from my 2 years on this board to discuss race with my children.

    AND yet, my 6 year old told me one day that African-Americans are not ‘Americans’ and made slant eyes to his sister. Believe me, I know just how the mom felt because even though it happened at home I felt like a failure in all that I have been trying to accomplish in my home.

  15. Andrea wrote:

    Jenn, I also grew up on a farm in North Dakota. I still remember how surprised I was to see a black family swimming at the local swimming pool when I was 10 years old. It just wasn’t something you saw much of. I worked with a black/Hispanic reporter several years ago who used to complain about how people would stare at him when he drove into one of the small rural towns in our reading area to do a story. I don’t think anyone was being malicious, but they just didn’t expect to see him. They probably tried their best NOT to stare and he never said anyone said anything racist to him, though I’m sure he heard a lot of ignorant comments that annoyed him.

    I did grow up near an Indian reservation and had a number of Indian classmates, so it wasn’t like I’d never seen anyone of color, but there’s quite a bit of prejudice against Indians. There are probably places in the state where the kids aren’t used to seeing Indians either. North Dakota is about 93 percent white according to the last census and its largest minority group is American Indians.

    I think Vermont and some other small states have similar population stats.

  16. Joyce wrote:

    we pride ourselves on teaching our children to recognizes differences in shapes, colors but when they apply that knowledge to people we are embarrased…children at this stage of development will speak without filters…when they turn school age they will begin to attach a value, social meaning to the knowledge in differences…teaching your child your fa;milvalue in differences prepares them to respond to their observation that won’t be embarrasing, in fact may make you proud. now just as teaching them to notice differences in objects is intentional, teaching the value in differences in people should also be intentional.

  17. Soo Ok wrote:

    My 2.5 yr old asian/caucasian daughter is very interested in hair and eye color – and more recently skin color too. A while ago, she declared that she has “yellow” skin. I found a book from our library named The Skin You Are In. I think it is a great introduction to discussing the myriad of colors and races of people at an age-appropriate level. http://www.amazon.com/Skin-You-Live-Michael-Tyler/dp/0975958003

  18. Claudia wrote:

    Thanks for posting this! I’m a black mother with a black child and I’m always looking for tips and guidance. This helps me too.

  19. MarcomMom wrote:

    I certainly agree that kids ought to be proactively taught to be aware and respectful of people of all other races and creeds and lifestyles, but I also think it’s important to point out that the author of the original MomLogic article is the mother of an adopted Asian child in addition to her two biological sons.

  20. Robin wrote:

    I’m obviously just making an assumption here, but it sounded from Jackie’s post like the reason she asked her coworker to answer was that she was afraid if she herself tried, she might commit an unintended faux pas by providing an insufficient or presumptuous explanation. I’m not saying there’s nothing wrong with her placing the burden of explaining race on someone who is already placed under undue burden because of her race. It just sounds like she was concerned that she might say the wrong thing, not that she didn’t want to deal with it, or thought race is only brown people’s problem.

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